{"id":500,"date":"2020-04-28T13:19:00","date_gmt":"2020-04-28T13:19:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.fovyv.fr\/?p=500"},"modified":"2022-07-29T13:20:54","modified_gmt":"2022-07-29T13:20:54","slug":"cse-des-biens-medicaux-quand-la-cfdt-la-cgt-et-la-direction-tentent-de-museler-force-ouvriere","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fovyv.fr\/?p=500","title":{"rendered":"CSE des Biens M\u00e9dicaux : quand la CFDT, la CGT et la Direction tentent de museler Force Ouvri\u00e8re !"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Une dr\u00f4le d\u2019id\u00e9e de la d\u00e9mocratie\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le 27 novembre dernier, vous avez vot\u00e9 pour une liste syndicale. Vous souhaitez maintenant l\u00e9gitimement savoir ce que d\u00e9fendent les \u00e9lus de chaque organisation syndicale et avoir connaissance des interventions des uns et des autres lors des CSE.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Et bien la CFDT et la CGT soutenues par la direction vous en privent&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>La CFDT, la CGT et la Direction refusent qu\u2019apparaissent le nom des intervenants&nbsp;sur les Proc\u00e8s-Verbaux des CSE<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pour Force Ouvri\u00e8re ce tour de force est inacceptable&nbsp;!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lors du CSE du 23&nbsp;avril 2020, les \u00e9lus FO on fait part de leur \u00e9tonnement sur la forme des proc\u00e8s-verbaux de CSE.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En effet, ce jour-l\u00e0 2 PV \u00e9taient mis au vote pour approbation. La secr\u00e9taire du CSE a indiqu\u00e9 avoir demand\u00e9 au prestataire qui r\u00e9dige les PV d\u2019en r\u00e9aliser un qui reprend l\u2019int\u00e9gralit\u00e9 des propos avec le nom des intervenants (PV du 11 f\u00e9vrier 2020) et un autre PV qui fait une synth\u00e8se de la r\u00e9union sans le nom des intervenants (PV du 27 janvier 2020).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Les \u00e9lus FO ont demand\u00e9 que les noms des intervenants apparaissent sur les 2 PV.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La CGT et la CFDT soutenus par la direction ont refus\u00e9 et ont d\u00e9cid\u00e9 que <strong>dor\u00e9navant, les noms n\u2019apparaitraient plus sur les PV&#8230;&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Un proc\u00e8s-verbal est une pi\u00e8ce juridique<\/strong>. Il peut \u00eatre, par exemple, utilis\u00e9 lors de proc\u00e9dure au prud\u2019homme. A ce titre, <strong>il se doit d\u2019\u00eatre le plus d\u00e9taill\u00e9 et le plus proche de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 possible.<\/strong> Ce n\u2019est pas un simple compte rendu de r\u00e9union. <strong>Il est imp\u00e9ratif de savoir qui dit quoi.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>D\u2019ailleurs, que ce soit au niveau du comit\u00e9 de groupe VYV, du Conseil d\u2019Administration, dans les CSE du P\u00f4le Enfance\/Famille\/Handicap et du P\u00f4le Personnes Ag\u00e9es, tous les PV reprennent les noms des intervenants ou le nom de leur organisation syndicale.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Selon la CGT et CFDT de l\u2019USBMPDL, \u00ab&nbsp;<em>il ne faudrait pas que le CSE soit une tribune syndicale o\u00f9 que des personnes d\u00e9fendent des opinions<\/em>&nbsp;\u00bb. Pour eux, <em>\u00ab&nbsp;un \u00e9lu peut donner effectivement son point de vue mais encore faut-il \u00eatre mesur\u00e9.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ils ont \u00e9galement expliqu\u00e9 leur position en indiquant qu\u2019une synth\u00e8se des \u00e9changes \u00e9tait moins longue et plus facile \u00e0 lire pour les salari\u00e9s de l\u2019USBM.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pour FO, le CSE est une instance ou doit pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment s\u2019exprimer le point de vue de chaque syndicat&nbsp;!&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pour FO, la v\u00e9ritable raison de cette d\u00e9cision est \u00e0 chercher ailleurs. 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